This post did a lot of 4x4, offroading in the 1990 -2000 and had memorable experiences with TLC and Land Rover and Range Rover enthusiasts. Was familiar with Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Subaru, Nissan, CJs 2, 7, 8. YJ too. Had great times and adventures
Yesterday, I viewed a Pearl White Subaru being sold at 40% off the regular price with same features as 2017 at Santolan. It has 44 km to its odometer and packs a whopping 241 hp (it is a turbo powered car) One of the dream car AWD, powerful and torquey. (350 nM)
Seen at Wawa (the TLC with very agressive tires owned by Cris Magdalena, a champion rally driver)
His wife happens to be from Bacnotan Their father happened to be a contractor sometime back
Cris Magdalena (with wide brimmed hat) and brod
Tall tires, Toyota 2b, and pick up sa likod, with snorkel
After being in Negros and after being showed around the province in TLC 200, I was eager to get a TLC which could set you back by P4.9 for local version and as much as P8.00 for Dubai and imported versions. But after researching and when the kuripot in me got better I am for the Subaru XT which has a 2.0 liter engine I am more inclined to get a Subaru:
These are the basis of comparison:
A Price: Subaru TLC 200
1, Total Amount P1,948,000 P4,930,000 + 3,000,000 more
2, DP 278,000 all in 986,000 4x more
3. Monthly 36 mos 56,336 126,227
48 mos 44,700 99,442
60 38,367 83,662
The monthly amortization of TLC is 2x the monthly amortization for the subaru
B Dimensions and weight
Length 4610 mm 4996 mm (396 mm longer)
Width 1795 1980 mm (185 mm wider)
Height 1735 1945 mm (210 mm taller)
Weight 1,524 kg 2,740 kg (1116 kg heavier)
The Subaru XT may have lower powered engine (say vs the diesel version) but compensated by lower weight
C. Engine power
HP 247 hp 385
Torque 350 nm 650
0 - 100 6.3 (the fastest 10.1 second
in its class)
D. Fuel economy 14.1 combined 7.1 for combined (thirsty)
E Safety 6 airbags 8 airbags
2 curtain, knee
2 front passengers
2. knee
F Off road X mode for descent descent, EBD, and dynamic
hill stop, EBD suspension control
G. Other special features eyesight (a $1,300 option)
collision avoidance
SRH (Steering responsive headlight)
Seat memory
Power rear gate
Leather seats
Paddle shifter
It is a great value for money: suv like because of bigger heft: wider and taller, and race car like: because of powerful engine that are near the TLC power train and responsive because it is 1,11l kg lighter. And with drag race car 0 to 100 tine of only 6.3 seconds. It is like its cousin the wrx sti.
And it performs like a great SUV great offroader in x mode. Great in snow and mud. Unlike any other car. I wish I could get one before the excise tax kicks in
It means a lot. For low priced cars below P500,000 it just means doubling the excise tax from 2% to 4%. But at higher price, it can gouge the buyers wallet and prevent him from buying a new one. So buy now.
There is the DOF version and HB 4774. The HB version further inflates the SRP
If your car is in the P1.2 to P1.5 million range (as most SUVs are now) the excise tax is 20% so that means additional P360 to P450t which could inflate the current SRP to P1.560 to nearly P2.00 million. That is a lot of money to cough out.
If you are buying a new car well in excess of P2 million. it could mean an additional P1 plus. (+60% in excise tax) So better buy a car now. or reserve. It could save you a lot of bucks
1. Remote rear door opener;
2. Eyesight safety features
3. 250 hp (a la WRX engine power)
4. 0 to 100 kph in 6.8 seconds
5. x mode for off road
6. Paddle shifter for turbo model
Easy does it on icy hill; the others can barely inch up a few inches because their awd slips: Ford Escape, Honda CRV,
1. Cheaper by P3,000,000
2. Lighter
3. Better fuel economy (29 mpg vs only 18 for TLC)
4. Better off road performance
5. Fastest at 0 to 100 kph (only 6.8 seconds) vs. more than 10 secs for TLC
TLC would be better in terms of representation, luxury, towing capacity (8,100 lbs) torque 650 nM and hp - 386 but that means more fuel consumption
What is Better Subaru Forester or Toyota Land Cruiser V8 200?
Exterior
18 reasons to buy Subaru Forester
Engine and transmission
More cylinders
8 vs 4
4 more cylinders. The more cylinders = the less vibration and the engine runs more smoothly.
Better compression
16.8 vs 16.3
3% or 0.5 . The greater degree of compression = the less fuel need to produce the same power.
Piston stroke longer
96 mm vs 86 mm
10% or 10 mm. The longer stroke = lower fuel consumption and fewer emissions.
More engine power
286 bhp vs 147 bhp
210 kw. vs 108 kw.
49% or 139 bhp. More power of car = more top speed.
More torque
650 nM vs 350 nM
46% or 300 nM. More torque = faster acceleration.
Performance
Faster acceleration from 0 to 60 mph
8.2 sec. vs 10.4 sec.
2.2 sec.
More top speed
130 mph vs 116 mph
14 mph
Fuel consumption
Less fuel consumption (Combined cycle)
27.7 mpg vs 44.78 mpg
62% or 17.08 mpg
Less fuel consumption (Highway)
31.01 mpg vs 48.66 mpg
57% or 17.65 mpg
Less fuel consumption (City)
23.51 mpg vs 39.2 mpg
67% or 15.69 mpg
Weight and capacity
More capacity of fuel tank
93 liters vs 64 liters
31% or 29 liters
More maximum allowable weight
3300 kg vs 2050 kg
38% or 1250 kg
More maximum bearing capacity
685 kg vs 510 kg
26% or 175 kg
More maximum towing weight with brakes
3500 kg vs 2000 kg
43% or 1500 kg
More maximum roof load
200 kg vs 80 kg
60% or 120 kg
Warranty
More standard warranty - Mileage
99441 miles vs 62150 miles
38% or 37291 miles
More standard warranty - Years
5 years vs 3 years
40% or 2 years
Other specs
More seats
7 vs 5
2
4 reasons to buy Toyota Land Cruiser V8 200
Engine and transmission
More valves per cylinder
4 vs 0.5
3.5 more valves per cylinder. The more valves = the better combustion of the fuel.
Emissions
Less CO2 emissions
104 g/mile vs 168 g/mile
62% or 64 g/mile
Less noise level
70.3 dB vs 71 dB
1% or 0.7 dB
Other specs
Less weight
1540 kg vs 2615 kg
70% or 1075 kg Weight of the vehicle affects: fuel consumption, acceleration dynamic, braking distance, etc.
Neutral reasons Subaru Forester vs. Toyota Land Cruiser V8 200
The 2016 Subaru Forester continues to be a good value and one of the best small SUVs you can buy, with superb all-weather capability, safety ratings, and versatility.
Better equipped and more expensive than ever, the 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser is an off-road beast that offers some on-road comfort for its likely suburban lifestyle.
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